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A article sent to me asking me to publish, your thoughts are welcome on this for or against we woild like to have your views......Word of the Day: Dhimmitude

Need something to get your blood boiling????
Has anyone heard of this new word? Dhimmitude?

Amish and other religious groups may be exempt from forced
purchase of healthcare policies under Obama care. You know
what other groups this could include??? Muslims and Christian
Scientists may be exempt from having to have government healthcare.

From Free Republic....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2491089/posts

Word of the Day: Dhimmitude

Unbelievable I had my doubts so I checked with Snopes. There is
an exemption for "certain religious groups" in the Health Care Bill.
Obama supporters check it out yourself. Had never heard the word
until now---Type it into Google and start reading Pretty interesting.
Note that Muslims and certain other religions are exempt from the
Obamacare penalties and it is supported by law. We are surrendering
from within! The prez is leading us right down the path to total
Muslim control and you don't care!

Maybe you voted for him but now the truth comes out. Maybe you
should rethink what you have done. Dhimmitude is the Muslim system
of controlling non-muslim populations conquered through jihad.
Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-muslims in exchange for
tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting
conquered remnants to islam. The ObamaCare bill is the establishment
of Dhimmitude and Sharia muslim diktat in the United States. Muslims
may be specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase
insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam
considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking" and "usury" and is
thus banned. Muslims may be specifically granted exemption based on
this. How convenient. So I John Smith, as a Christian, will have crippling
IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle,
cars and etc. and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison
time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile,
Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health
needs paid for by the de facto government insurance at our expence. Non-
muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.

Dhimmitude serves two purposes: it enriches the muslim masters AND serves
to drive conversions to islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to islam
will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation
X, Y and Z types who have no moral anchor or belief in God! If you don't
believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30
pieces of silver. "Sure, I'll be a muslim if it means free health insurance and
no taxes. Where do I sign, brother?"

Now all you Obama voters get in line for your free stuff!...However, I suggest
you don't hold your breath!... I recommend sending this email to all your
contacts. This is desperately important and people need to know about it and
what the past election has done to all of us!

PS Have you heard about the summit Obama is holding this month in DC for
the future Muslim business leaders in the US? He wants to increase their
ability to begin business opportunities in the US for the Muslim community!
Better start looking for a country that doesn't cater to the Muslims ~ Austrailia
doesn't because this country will be overrun by Muslims like Europe is currently
experiencing.

Let's go further....
The Status of Non-Muslim Minorities Under Islamic Rule

Dhimmitude: the Islamic system of governing populations conquered by jihad wars, encompassing all of the demographic, ethnic, and religious aspects of the political system. The word "dhimmitude" as a historical concept, was coined by Bat Ye'or in 1983 to describe the legal and social conditions of Jews and Christians subjected to Islamic rule. The word "dhimmitude" comes from dhimmi, an Arabic word meaning "protected". Dhimmi was the name applied by the Arab-Muslim conquerors to indigenous non-Muslim populations who surrendered by a treaty (dhimma) to Muslim domination. Islamic conquests expanded over vast territories in Africa, Europe and Asia, for over a millennium (638-1683). The Muslim empire incorporated numerous varied peoples which had their own religion, culture, language and civilization. For centuries, these indigenous, pre-Islamic peoples constituted the great majority of the population of the Islamic lands. Although these populations differed, they were ruled by the same type of laws, based on the shari'a.

This similarity, which includes also regional variations, has created a uniform civilization developed throughout the centuries by all non-Muslim indigenous people, who were vanquished by a jihad-war and governed by shari'a law. It is this civilization which is called dhimmitude. It is characterized by the different strategies developed by each dhimmi group to survive as non-Muslim entity in their Islamized countries. Dhimmitude is not exclusively concerned with Muslim history and civilization. Rather it investigates the history of those non-Muslim peoples conquered and colonized by jihad.

Dhimmitude encompasses the relationship of Muslims and non-Muslims at the theological, social, political and economical levels. It also incorporates the relationship between the numerous ethno-religious dhimmi groups and the type of mentality that they have developed out of their particular historical condition which lasted for centuries, even in some Muslim countries, till today.

Dhimmitude is an entire integrated system, based on Islamic theology. It cannot be judged from the circumstantial position of any one community, at a given time and in a given place. Dhimmitude must be appraised according to its laws and customs, irrespectively of circumstances and political contingencies.

The website for above....
http://www.dhimmitude.org/

And a little further...

Dhimmitude: History: Dhimmitude
Dhimmitude in History

Dhimmitude can only be understood in the context of jihad, because it originates from this ideology. Infidels who submit without fighting to the Islamic armies, are granted a pledge of security. They are protected from the jihad laws against infidels which command killing, slavery, ransom or deportation for the enemies. Peace and security for non-Muslims are recognised only after their submission. Protection status is provided through the Islamization of conquered lands.
Rules of dhimmitude

The vanquished non-Muslims peoples are granted security for their life and possessions, as well as a relative self-autonomous administration and limited religious rights according to the modalities of the conquest. These rights are subject to two conditions: the payment of a poll tax (the jizya) and submission to the provisions of Islamic law.

The concept of toleration is linked to a number of discriminatory obligations in the economic, religious and social fields, imposed by the shari'a on the dhimmis. The transgression by the dhimmis of some of these obligations, abolished their protection, and threaten them with death or slavery. Dhimmis suffered many legal disabilities intended to reduce them to a condition of humiliation, segregation and discrimination. These rules, established from the eight to nine centuries by the founders of the four schools of Islamic law, set the pattern of the Muslim's community's social behavior toward dhimmis.

Jews and Christians are referred to as the People of the Book, they share the same legal status, while other religious group - like the Zoroastrians for instance - were more despised and treated harsher.

Dhimmitude covers more than a millennium of Christian and Jewish history, as well as of other groups. It is a comprehensive civilization encompassing customs, legislation, social behavior. Numerous laws were enacted over the centuries by the Muslim authorities, to implement its principles. It was abolished during the 19th -20th centuries under European pressure and colonization of Arab countries.

Today the resurgence of traditional Islam revitalizes the spirit of jihad against the dar al-harb and of dhimmitude for the non-Muslim minorities.
Islam and the Jews: The Status of Jews and Christians in Muslim Lands, 1772 CE. From Jewish History Sourcebook. The rules of dhimmitude obligatory under Islamic law, for Jews and Christians (dhimmis) living in Islamized lands, as explained by an Egyptian judge in 1772.

The Jizyah Tax: Equality And Dignity Under Islamic Law?. Article by Walter Short. An examination of Islamic law regarding Jews and Christians based primarily on the Qur'an and the Sunnah. Since the Muslims in the West and the Muslim world uphold the principle of an Islamic State with Shari'ah Law as the ideal society, the author examines the place of non-Muslims, if the Caliphate was ever restored and applied in the West.

Islam and Dhimmis: Rejoinder. Article (1987) by Bat Ye'or in response to an article (1986) by Prof. Mark Cohen (Princeton University) in The Jerusalem Quarterly

Aspects of the Arab-Israeli Conflict. Article (1979) by Bat Ye'or, Wiener Library Bulletin (Institute of Contemporary History, London)

Oriental Jewry and the Dhimmi image in contemporary Arab nationalism (1979). Lecture by Bat Ye'or at Jews College, London (Sept. 5, 1978) organised by The Jews in Arab Lands Committee. Chairman of the seminar: The Rt. Hon. Sir Harold Wilson

Dhimmi Peoples: Oppressed Nations (1978). Four articles by Bat Ye'or written for journals in Bruxelles before President Anwar Sadat's Nov. 1977 visit to Jerusalem. Trans. from French (1977). Published by Editions de l'Avenir (Geneva) for the Centre d'Information et de Documentation sur le Moyen-Orient (Geneva)

Zionism in Islamic Lands: The Case of Egypt. Article (1977) by Bat Ye'or, Wiener Library Bulletin (Institute of Contemporary History, London)

Protected Peoples under Islam (1976). Article by David G. Littman and Bat Ye'or, Centre d'Information et de Documentation sur le Moyen-Orient (Geneva). Quotations from a number of sources, and documents on North African Jewry in the 19th century

Islam and Dhimmitude. Where Civilizations Collide (Introduction), by Bat Ye'or. From the book published by Fairleigh Dickinson University Press/Associated University Presses (2002)

Jews under Muslim Rule in the late Nineteenth Century. A Wiener library Bulletin article (1975) by David G. Littman, providing some original source documents from the archives of the Alliance Israélite Universelle (Paris), translated from the French. They illustrate the harsh reality of dhimmitude under Muslim rule for the Jews in Tunisia, Libya and Morocco from 1864-1911.

Jews under Muslim Rule--II: Morocco 1903-1912. A Wiener Library Bulletin article (1976) by David G. Littman, with AIU source documents before French colonization. They vividly illustrate the humiliation, misery and exposure to physical violence which was still the lot of the Moroccan Jewish dhimmis 100 years ago. (Dedicated to Professor H.Z. Hirschberg, d. 1976).

Jews under Muslim Rule: The Case of Persia. A Wiener Library Bulletin article (1979) by David G. Littman providing an overview of the Persian Jewish condition from antiquity. AIU source documents from 1873-1910 show how the individual and communal degradation and oppression of the dhimmi Jews were more pronounced where the shi'a doctrine ruled in Persia, before the Pahlavis (1925-1979), and also in the Yemen.

Mission to Morocco (1863-1864). Chapter 3 (pp. 171-229) by David G. Littman, in The Century of Moses Montefiore (ed. by Sonia and V.D. Lipman, published for the Littman Library of Jewish Civilzation in Association with the Jewish Historical Society of England by Oxford University Press, 1985). A detailed description of Sir Moses Montefiore's visit to Morocco, illustrating the daily condition of dhimmitude in Morocco. It provides an overview of the situation of Moroccan Jewry in previous centuries, and later, down to the French occupation in 1912.

Myths and Politics: Origin of the Myth of a Tolerant Pluralistic Islamic Society. Lecture by Bat Ye'or (August 31, 1995) at a Symposium on the Balkan War (Chicago, Illinois) under the auspices of the Lord Byron Foundation For Balkan Studies and The International Strategic Studies Association.

The Persecution of Christians Under Islam: An Historic Overview, by Virginia Tschanz, The Lion, July 2000, P4

The Decline of Eastern Christian Communities in the Modern Middle East, by Bat Ye'or. Lecture of November 11, 1996 at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, The Middle Eastern Unit and The Faculty of Humanities. Chair: Dr. David Satran (Department of Comparative Religion)

The link for above....
http://www.dhimmitude.org/d_history_dhimmitude.html

Interesting Links...
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/02/17/department-of-homeland-dhimmitude-j...

http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=20902

Now the other side....
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/dhimmitude-and-the-muslim-exemption/

Look at this also stated in the above link..
In our article "More Malarkey About Health Care," we wrote that some religious groups may indeed be considered exempt from the requirement to have health insurance. The law defines exempt groups using the definition from 26 U.S. Code section 1402(g)(1), which describes the religious groups currently considered exempt from Social Security payroll taxes. Eligible sects must forbid any payout in the event of death, disability, old age or retirement, including Social Security and Medicare.

The Watch...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/why-jihad-watch.html

And from my favorite source of info..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmitude

Well what's your opinion , this is a subject I found interesting , thanks to a amateur radio operator who sent, I have tried to be fair in presenting and only one site I could see defended in a objective manner, I sure that you can see also..again your opinions are welcome , your eyes may be opened a little of whats going on around us here in the USA ..
73
Rick Sr